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Former NSW deputy premier John Barilaro told Dominic Perrottet, Stuart Ayres and Matt Kean he wanted US job, inquiry hears

Former NSW deputy premier John Barilaro has told an inquiry he wishes he did not apply for a lucrative New York role he was controversially awarded, describing the process as a “s**tshow”.

Mr Barilaro is giving evidence for the first time to an upper house inquiry into the recruitment process that saw him appointed the state’s Senior Trade and Investment Commissioner to the Americas.

He has since withdrawn from the $500,000-a-year role, which is based in New York.

Mr Barilaro told the inquiry he flagged his interest in the role to Premier Dominic Perrottet on a phone call in November after his resignation from cabinet, to which he claimed Mr Perrottet responded “great”.

Mr Barilaro said he spoke to then-trade minister Stuart Ayres and texted Treasurer Matt Kean about the role, too.

He told the inquiry he expected to clear his name and has refuted any suggestion he sought any special treatment.

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Daniel Mookhey closely questioned Mr Barilaro.(AAP: James Gourley)

Mr Barilaro was asked about a briefing note sent to his office stating a candidate for the job, Jenny West, had been selected for the role in August 2021.

He said he didn’t recall seeing the note, but accepted it contained an electronic signature of his in accordance with a process in his office for when he was away.

Mr Barilaro said he had “no issue” with Ms West, who described him as a “strong professional”.

Ms West has previously given evidence to the inquiry that she was told on August 12 she was the successful candidate.

She claims that offer was later revoked and she was told the job would be a “present” for someone.

“I didn’t know that Jenny West was offered a contract … this inquiry has really opened that up,” Mr Barilaro said today.

He denied the government was seeking to create a bunch of “pork barrels” in changing the position to become a ministerial appointment.

“I will say this, if I knew what I know now, I wish I never had applied,” Mr Barilaro said.

“If I knew what I know now, I wouldn’t have walked into what was as**tshow.

“I’m going to use those terms, I’m sorry to say, because the trauma I’ve gone through over the past six to seven weeks has been significant.”

‘An error’ to offer Barilaro the job

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Amy Brown appeared before the inquiry for a third time.(abcnews)

In her third time answering questions before the inquiry, Investment NSW chief executive Amy Brown said that, “in hindsight”, it was an “an error” to offer Mr Barilaro the US job before a panel report was signed.

“The way these roles were set up as public service appointments, but with a high degree of ministerial interest, made it difficult to run an optimal process,” she said.

Ms Brown recalled hearing from Mr Barilaro in August 2021, when he recommended his then-senior-media-adviser, Jennifer Lugsdin, for an upcoming opening at Investment NSW.

Mr Barilaro and Ms Lugsdin are in a relationship, which did not commence while he was deputy premier, and Ms Brown said the only comment from him in that call about a relationship was regarding a professional one.

Ms Brown was presented with a chain of emails from December 2021 showing communication about the recruitment process for the US role.

The position was re-advertised publicly, on December 17, however the emails were sent about a week prior. The email chain was forwarded to Ms Lugsdin.

Ms Brown agreed it was a fair inference that Ms Lugsdin would have known by at least December 10 about a decision to commence advertising the role that year, “assuming she read that email”.

Elliott bows out of race for deputy Liberal leader

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David Elliott avoided answering whether he discussed the role with Mr Perrottet. (AAP: Dan Himbrechts)

Meanwhile, the upper house inquiry’s terms will be extended to include other trade roles, after allegations Mr Perrottet offered to create a job for Transport Minister David Elliott.

This afternoon, Mr Elliott announced he would not run for the deputy leadership of the NSW Liberal Party after the resignation of Stuart Ayres from cabinet last week over “concerns” about his conduct in the appointment of Mr Barilaro.

Mr Elliot told Nine radio he would not contest the role, due to be determined on Tuesday, after a discussion with Mr Perrottet.

“I don’t think that’s going to be in the best interests of the party and I think it’s in Dominic’s best interests for us to have some unity for the parliament over the course of the next eight months as we go to an election,” he said.

Earlier today the Premier hosed down the job claims, telling Nine radio he had spoken to Mr Elliott about several roles — including NSW’s agent-general position in London — but that he was “never promised a job outside of politics”.

“That is deeply offensive and wrong,” the Premier said.

“But people always say, from time to time, discussions will be had in relation to when someone withdraws what they would like to do. That is normal.

“What I don’t do, as Premier, is say that I will ever make those appointments or offer anyone a job.”

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‘Offensive’ allegations: NSW Premier denies offering trade job as sweetener

Mr Perrottet said the conversations he had with ministers were private.

“I am not going to go into details in relation to parliamentary secretary roles or a role in the ministry,” he said.

He did not deny an allegation that Mr Elliott had requested to be made NSW governor if he retired.

“From time to time, members of parliament will always say to their colleagues what they would like to do after politics,” the Premier said.

“People come to me, or come to my colleagues and say, ‘When I leave parliament I’d like to do A, B, and C’.”

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A spokesperson for Mr Perrottet says any appointments are a matter for the Premier.(AAP: Bianca De Marchi)

NSW Shadow Treasurer Daniel Mookhey said Mr Perrottet had many questions to answer.

“The allegations about the Premier allegedly offering David Elliott an appointment to the agent-general position in London are deeply serious,” Mr Mookhey said.

“Labor as a result will seek to expand the inquiry’s term of reference so we can examine the agent-general’s position as well as other roles across the world.”

The Premier said he would adopt the recommendations of a review into the hiring process for trade roles, which is due to be finished within days.

Treasurer Matt Kean confirmed he would run for the position of Deputy NSW Liberal Leader.

The Premier’s office has been contacted for comment.

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NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet says allegations he promised London role to David Elliott ‘offensive’

NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet has commented on allegations he spoke about creating a highly paid public service role based in the UK for a minister.

Labor has sought to extend an inquiry into how former NSW deputy premier John Barilaro was appointed to a top US trade job, amid reports by Nine newspapers that the NSW Premier offered to create a new parliamentary trade role for Transport Minister David Elliott in London.

The report says the Premier spoke to Mr Elliott about the agent-general position in London as compensation following manoeuvres that could have seen him removed from cabinet.

Mr Perrottet told Nine radio this morning he discussed “a number of roles” with Mr Elliott, including the agent-general role in London, but the Premier stopped short of clarifying whether he spoke about creating a public service role for him.

“David Elliott was never promised a job outside of politics,” Mr Perrottet said.

“That is deeply offensive and wrong.”

“But people always say from time to time discussions will be had in relation to when someone withdraws what they would like to do. That is normal.

“What I don’t do as Premier is to say that I will ever make those appointments or offer anyone a job.”

Mr Perrottet said the conversations he had with ministers were private.

“I am not going to go into details in relation to parliamentary secretary roles or a role in the ministry,” he said.

Mr Barilaro is expected to face some serious questioning this morning when he appears for the first time before the inquiry.

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David Elliott avoided answering whether he discussed the role with Mr Perrottet. (AAP: Dan Himbrechts)

The inquiry last week heard from senior NSW bureaucrat Kathrina Lo, who said she would never have signed off on her appointment as New York trade commissioner had she known of the level of ministerial involvement.

Trade minister and Member for Penrith Stuart Ayres resigned from his portfolios and leadership position in the party over concerns about his role in the selection process.

Mr Elliott did not directly respond to questions about the conversation with the Premier.

“I’m committed to delivering the NSW government’s infrastructure pipeline, which is helping transform our state, and ensuring our public transport delivers first-class services for the people of NSW,” he said in a statement.

“I have no interest in working overseas again.”

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John Barilaro resigned from the New York role shortly after accepting it. (News Video)

NSW Shadow Treasurer Daniel Mookhey said Mr Perrottet had many questions to answer.

“The allegations about the Premier allegedly offering David Elliott an appointment to the agent-general position in London are deeply serious,” Mr Mookhey said.

“Labor as a result will seek to expand the inquiry’s term of reference so we can examine the agent-general’s position as well as other roles across the world.”

The Premier’s office has been contacted for comment.

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Lismore Mayor frustrated over flood report delay as media leaks show $3b recovery expense

The Mayor of Lismore in northern NSW has urged the state government to release a flood inquiry report after hearing unconfirmed leaks from the media and nothing from the government.

The ABC understands the state government has received a $3 billion recovery cost estimate within the findings of a 700-page independent flood report it commissioned to investigate the preparation for, cause of and response to the crisis.

Other recommendations include offering buybacks and land swaps, the rebuilding of assets, and economic measures.

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Lismore Mayor Steve Krieg had both his home and business damaged in the February flood event.(ABC News: Bronwyn Herbert)

Lismore Mayor Steve Krieg said he was frustrated the government had not publicly released the findings.

“I read the information in the paper today, but I’ve had no direct information from the government at all,” Mr Krieg said.

“It would be nice to get a bit of an update and a briefing. What people in Lismore really need now is hope and certainty, and at the moment we don’t have any of those.”

About 4,000 homes were damaged by flooding in February and March.

It is understood the government will seek funding from the Commonwealth to help with rebuilding and disaster proofing of communities.

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A flood-hit house on Wotherspoon St in North Lismore. (Four Corners: Tajette O’Halloran)

The inquiry’s recommendations, led by NSW Chief Scientist and Engineer Mary O’Kane and former police commissioner Mick Fuller, were handed to Premier Dominic Perrottet a week ago.

The findings will likely lead to the disbanding of the disaster agency Resilience NSW, which was heavily criticized for its response to the floods in the Northern Rivers.

The ABC understands a proposal to dismantle Resilience NSW will now be presented to cabinet.

Resilience NSW commissioner Shane Fitzsimmons, who led the government’s response to the Black Summer bushfires, has not yet commented on the report or his future employment.

The report is still under review by the government.

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Flood inquiry receives scathing contribution from Bundjalung Nation for forthcoming independent report

Indigenous community leaders on the New South Wales far north coast say the emergency response to this year’s flooding disaster ranged from unprepared and uncoordinated to non-existent.

The Bundjalung Nation Flood Response Report was released to the public today after earlier being submitted to the Independent Flood Inquiry.

Some of the community leaders’ key findings included:

  • The emergency response was under resourced, unprepared, uncoordinated, and simply non-existent for many,
  • Woefully inadequate planning and environmental systems were not informed by First Nations science, cultural knowledge, and data; and
  • There was a lack of First Nations people and voices in government structures.
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Currie Country Group’s report co-author Arrabella Douglas.(ABC North Coast: Bruce MacKenzie)

Report co-author Arrabella Douglas from the Tweed-based Currie Country Group was among those to speak at the release ceremony today.

“We have come together because we are black first,” she said.

“We are worried and concerned about our Aboriginal communities, and we are prepared to stand up and do it because if we don’t we know we will be overlooked.”

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CEO of the Bogal Local Aboriginal Land Council Rebecca Woods.(ABC North Coast: Bruce MacKenzie)

Rebecca Woods from the Bogal Local Aboriginal Land Council struggled to contain her emotions as she spoke about the situation in nearby Coraki where about 60 people are still living in tents after their homes were inundated.

“We’ve still got people living in temporary accommodation solutions with no real strategy,” she said.

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Dale Bolt cleaning up inside a house after floodwater damage at Cabbage Tree Island.(ABC News: Rani Hayman)

The community’s report made more than a dozen recommendations including:

  • Improve planning, flood mitigation, and environmental mapping processes by incorporating local First traditional Nations owners’ knowledge,
  • Improve emergency responses during and after natural disasters, and ensure First Nations voices are driving decisions,
  • Ensure crucial infrastructure is disaster-ready for future events; and
  • Build the capacity of Aboriginal organizations to function and respond in times of natural disaster.
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Chris Binge, CEO of the Jali Local Aboriginal Land Council.(ABC North Coast: Bruce MacKenzie)

Chris Binge, who helped to rescue more than 200 people from Cabbage Tree Island at the peak of the crisis, urged the government to take note.

“If government can’t keep up with us we will do what needs to be done because that’s the sort of people we are,” he said.

“Leadership is about listening, it’s about learning from what’s happened and also what didn’t happen.

“Don’t feel sorry for us, stand beside us.

“Walk with us, let us guide you on a journey that will change your lives, because we want to be the people changing our lives for us.”

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